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                      THE CHILDREN OF GRUFFUDD, NEPHEW OF IAGO
                                           By Darrell Wolcott
 
           In earlier studies, we have posited that the Gruffudd ap Cynan who occurs in 1075 and 1081 was a different man than the Gruffudd ap Cynan who occurs in 1098 and died in 1137.[1]  We also identified two daughters of the earlier Gruffudd, both born c.1070.[2]  After reviewing the people and events recorded in Gwynedd between 1124 and 1152 and the pedigree citations for several of those men, we now suggest the earlier Gruffudd also had at least four sons born between 1072 and 1081. 
 
        The earliest manuscripts cite the following children born to Angharad ferch Owain ap Edwin and Gruffudd ap Cynan ap Iago[3]:
 
        1.  Ranillt, who married Madog ap Idnerth ap Cadwgan, and was mother to Cadwallon[4].  Our timeline for that family dates Madog to c. 1085 and Cadwallon to c. 1113, so Ranillt should occur c. 1099.
 
        2.  Owain Gwynedd, the eldest son who followed his father as king, was born c. 1100
 
        3.  Cadwallon is cited in 1124 with his brother, Owain, as having been sent by their father to invade Meirionydd.  This suggests these were the two eldest sons, but Cadwallon was slain in 1132.  We date his birth c. 1101.  But the Cadwallon ap Gruffudd ap Cynan who was father to Tangwystl was a whole generation younger as shown below by her marriage.
 
        4.  Cadwaladr, who is not mentioned in the Brut until after the death of his brother Cadwallon, was born c. 1102.  He had two children by Tangwystl ferch Cadwallon ap Gruffudd ap Cynan.[5]  We reject the assumption this lady was the daughter of his brother on both chronological and religious grounds.  If the marriage of Owain Gwynedd to his first cousin (Cristyn ferch Gronwy ap Owain ap Edwin) was condemned by the church, a marriage to one's niece would have been considered incestual.  We would date Tangwystl to c. 1115 and identify her father as Cadwallon ap Gruffudd ap Cynan nephew of Iago, a man likely born in Ireland c. 1080.  This lady would have been a third-cousin of her husband:
 
                                       975  Idwal ap Elisedd
                               ______________l____________
                               l                                         l
                    1005  Iago                                   Cynan  1014
                               l                                         l
                   1035  Cynan                                Gruffudd  1041
                               l                                         l
                   1070  Gruffudd                            Cadwallon  1080
                               l                                         l
                 1102  Cadwaladr===============Tangwystl  1115
 
         5.  Gwenllian, who married Gruffudd ap Rhys ap Tewdwr[6], was born c. 1103.  She led an army against the Normans in 1136 while her husband was in Gwynedd seeking assistance from her father, and was slain on the battlefield.  As we have suggested elsewhere, the "Gwenllian ferch Gruffudd ap Cynan" who married Cadwgan ap Bleddyn was born c. 1070 and was a daughter of Gruffudd ap Cynan ap Idwal.
 
        6.  Marged, who married Ieuaf ap Owain ap Trahaearn ap Caradog[7], was born c. 1108.  Both the marriage into that family and the chronology clearly suggest it was not her father who was contemporary with, and helped kill Trahaearn ap Caradog in 1081:
 
                   975  Idwal ap Elisedd
              ___________l___________
              l                                   l
   1005  Iago                             Cynan  1014
             l                                    l
  1035  Cynan                        Gruffudd(a) 1041    Trahaearn(a) 1035
             l                                                               l
 1070 Gruffudd                                                     Owain  1065
             l                                                                               l
 1108  Marged==============================Ieuaf  1095
 
                (a)  The combatants at Mynydd Cairn in 1081
   
         7.  Susanna, who married Madog ap Maredudd ap Bleddyn[8], was born near 1110.  She was the mother of the first Gruffudd Maelor, he born c. 1125.
 
         8.  Annest of whom nothing is known, but likely was born between 1105 and 1110.
 
         Other children attributed to Gruffudd ap Cynan ap Iago by other ladies are:
 
         1.  Iago, whose mother was a daughter of Llychwy of Llanbeulan[9].  His daughter, Iwera, bore Owain Cyfeiliog to Gruffudd ap Maredudd ap Bleddyn[10].  This suggests a birthdate c. 1110 for Iwera and near 1080 for Iago.  His father must have been the earlier Gruffudd ap Cynan ap Idwal. 
 
         2.  Yslani, who married Hwfa ap Ithel Felyn of Ial[11].  This lady would occur c. 1110 and might chronologically have been a half-sister of Owain Gwynedd.  However, the citations make her a sister of Iago by the same mother.  One of those relationships is impossible; she could not be a sister of the same Iago discussed immediately above.  Either she was the daughter of that Iago, or her mother was an unknown other lady.  That would require positing that both men called Gruffudd ap Cynan named a son Iago, one the father of Iwera and the other the sister of Yslani.  We prefer the construction making Iwera and Yslani daughters of a c. 1080 Iago, perhaps even the same lady cited once by her birthname and once by her nickname.
 
          3.  Duling, cited as a priest and teacher and the father of Thomas.  His mother is not identified nor is his wife.  He might have been a son of either man called Gruffudd ap Cynan.
 
          4.  Idwal, abbot of Penmon in Anglesey.  His descendant, Angharad ferch Gruffudd ap Hywel ap Cynan ap Idwal, married Maredudd Hen ap Hywel ap Maredudd ap Bleddyn[12] and would date from c. 1210.  This requires an Idwal ap Gruffudd ap Cynan born c. 1075 and we identify him as a son of the first Gruffudd ap Cynan.
 
          Thus, of the children cited for Gruffudd ap Cynan, we think the following were actually not siblings of Owain Gwynedd but fathered by the earlier Gruffudd ap Cynan ap Idwal:
 
          1.  Gwenllian born c. 1070 who married Cadwgan ap Bleddyn ap Cynfyn, he born c. 1055
 
          2.  Malli born c. 1070 who married Ieuaf ap Cadwgan ap Elystan Glodrydd, he born c. 1055.
 
          3.  Rhael born c. 1075 who married Llywarch ap Bleddyn ap Cynfyn, he born c. 1060
 
          4.  Iago born c. 1080 who was father to Iwera and was also likely the father, not the sister, of Yslani.
 
          5.  Cadwallon born c. 1079 who was father to Tangwystl and probably the father of Cunedda.
 
          6.  Cadwaladr born c. 1080, not the one who married Tangwystl.  This man, we believe, married Dyddgu ap Maredudd ap Bleddyn[13] born c. 1095 and was father to Cadwgan and others.  He occurs as the ancestor of a Cadfan ap Cadwaladr of c. 1180 and of Tangwystl ap Cadfan ap Cadwaladr of c. 1210. That Cadfan had a brother named Richard born c. 1180 who married a daughter of Gwyn Ddistain and fathered at least 4 daughters and a son Cadwaladr.  That Cadwaladr had a son Richard who had 3 daughters who are universally called "sisters" of the earlier 4 ladies although born two generations later. 
 
         7.  Idwal born c. 1075, the abbot of Penmon.
       
         When Cadwgan ap Bleddyn and Gruffudd ap Cynan ap Iago fled Anglesey to Ireland in 1098, we posit that they were met by Cadwgan's brothers-in-law...the sons of Gruffudd ap Cynan ap Idwal, who were younger brothers of Cadwgan's late wife Gwenllian.  Then between 18 and 25 years old, the boys were named Idwal, Iago, Cadwallon and Cadwaladr.  Both historians and genealogists have hopelessly confused them with same-named men born a generation later since the younger Gruffudd gave at least two of those same names to his sons.  We suggest that when Cadwgan and Gruffudd submitted to King William Rufus in 1099 and were permitted to return to Wales, that these four young men came from Ireland with them. Additional discussions of those men follow:
 
         An ancient pedigree cited in ABT (5b) says two children of Gruffudd ap Cynan were "Iago ap Gruffudd and Yslani his sister who was wife to Hwfa ap Ithel Felyn, and their mother was a daughter of Llychwy of Llanbeulan".  When we first suggested this wife might have belonged to the earlier Gruffudd nephew of Iago (born in Ireland c. 1041), we realized that Yslani clearly dated from c. 1105/1110[3] and could not be a daughter of that Gruffudd.  We have since taken a closer look at Iago and must conclude these two likely were not brother and sister.  A daughter of Iago called Iwera (perhaps merely a nickname denoting an Irish lady) is said to have been the consort of Gruffudd ap Maredudd ap Bleddyn.  That man was born c. 1095 and died during his father's life in 1128.  His son, Owain Cyfeiliog, was still a toddler when his father died.  The lady called Iwera could scarcely have been born after c. 1115 (ladies were not legally eligible to have sex until age 14) and more likely was born nearer 1100/1105.  Accordingly, Iago must have been born near 1075 while Yslani was a full generation younger than that.  In fact, Iwera and Yslani occur in the same generation and we suggest they were sisters....if not actually the same lady cited by both her birth name and her nickname.  We further suspect the ancient citation originally said "Iago tad Yslani" but was emended by medieval copyists who dated Iago to c. 1105 thinking he was a half-brother of Owain Gwynedd.  That possibly altered relationship was again cited in HLG 5b, but the latter pedigree is corrupt in several other respects as well.  It reads "Ithel Felyn ap Llewelyn Aurdorchog ap Cynwrig ap Cynddelw Gam ap Elgud; Yslani ferch Gruffudd ap Cynan was the wife of Hwfa ap Ithel Felyn".  In fact Llewelyn Aurdorchog was the son of Coel ap Gwriad ap Cynwrig, Ithel Felyn was the son of Llewelyn Fychan ap Llewelyn Aurdorchog and we suggest Yslani was the daughter of Iago ap Gruffudd ap Cynan ap Idwal (not Gruffudd ap Cynan ap Iago).  A chart of these relationships better reflects the chronology:
 
                                     975  Idwal ap Elisedd
                                               l
1005 Llewelyn Aurdorchog        Cynan  1014
             l                                 l
1035 Llewelyn Fychan    1041  Gruffudd            1025  Bleddyn
             l                                 l                              l
1065 Ithel Felyn               1075  Iago              1065  Maredudd
             l             ____________l__________               l  
             l             l                                   l               l
 1095  Hwfa====Yslani*  1110        1110  *Iwera=/=Gruffudd 1095
 
         *These ladies were either sisters, or a single lady known as Yslani the Irish woman...Ireland = Iwerddon; we believe this is an additional indication that Iago was born and raised in Ireland as son of the Gruffudd, nephew of Iago, also born in Ireland. 
 
           Turning now to the early notices of a man named Cadwaladr ap Gruffudd ap Cynan, four separate wives or consorts are cited for a man of that name:
 
           a.  Gwerfyl ap Gwrgeneu ap Ho[wel?] ap Ieuaf ap Cadwgan ap Elystan is implied by the oldest citation[14]. It simply says "Cadfan ap Cadwaladr, unfam oedd ag Owain Cyfeiliog".  Literally, "the mother [of Cadfan] was the same one who had Owain Cyfeiliog".  ABT 8g cites Owain's mother as the above Gwerfyl but her pedigree abbreviates the name of her grandfather as Ho. and was assumed to mean "Howel" or "Hywel", but one extant copy of the lost Hengwrt Ms 33 rendered it as "Hoedliw".  This was not a family descended from Elystan Glodrydd of Buellt, but the earlier Elystan (ap Gwaethfoed?) of Powys:
 
                        955  Elystan of Powys
                                       l
                          985  Cadwgan
                                       l
                            1015  Ieuaf
                                       l
                       1045  Hywel/Hoedliw
                                       l
                         1080  Gwrgeneu           Maredudd  1065
                                       l                       l 
                          1110  Gwerfyl========Gruffudd  1095  ob 1129
                                                 l
                               1125  Owain Cyfeiliog
 
         The mother of Owain Cyfeiliog could have been a consort of the Cadwaladr ap Gruffudd ap Cynan born c. 1102 and have borne Cadfan around 1125/1130.  Whether this Gwerfyl was actually married to either man for whom she bore a son, is unknown.
 
         b.  Dyddgu ferch Maredudd ap Bleddyn ap Cynan, a lady who would occur c. 1095.  We suggest she was the wife of a Cadwaladr born c. 1080, not the one born near 1102.
 
         c.  Alice ferch Richard de Clare (Strongbow), Earl of Pembroke.[15]  This lady would occur c. 1115 and would fit well with a Cadwaladr born c. 1102 and such a marriage would almost be expected by the son of the Lord of Anglesey who spent much time in the south of Wales.
 
         d.  Tangwystl ferch Cadwallon ap Gruffudd ap Cynan[16].  Most historians see nothing amiss to believe Cadwaladr married the daughter of his own brother, but we reject the idea on both religious and chronological grounds.  If she were a niece, she would not occur until c. 1130 or later.  We suggest her father was a Cadwallon ap Gruffudd ap Cynan born c. 1080, she then occurring near 1115.
 
            A reasonable construction of these families would look like this:
 
                               975  Idwal ap Elisedd
                          ____________l______________
                          l                                         l
               1005  Iago                           1014  Cynan
                          l                                         l
              1035  Cynan                        1041  Gruffudd
                          l                        __________l________
                          l                        l                             l
            1070  Gruffudd           Cadwallon  1078   1080  Cadwaladr*
                          l                        l                              
           1105  Cadwaladr**====Tangwystl 1110
 
           *Married Dyddgu ap Maredudd of c. 1095
            **First married Alice deClare about 1133; secondly, had a son by Gwerfyl ferch Gwrgeneu about 1135; and thirdly married Tangwystl about 1140
 
         
           The next citation which requires attention is that found in Peniarth Ms 128 where the wife of Cadfan ap Cadwaladr is cited as Lleuci ferch Ithel ap Rhys ap Ifor, sister to Rhiwallon Lloyd.  This lady would occur c. 1195, her husband Cadfan about 1180 and his father Cadwaladr near 1150.  Thus, he could be neither of the men named Cadwaladr in the above chart.  But such a Cadfan and Lleuci do fit chronologically with the wife cited[17] for Moreiddig ap Sandde Hardd and we suggest the following identity for this Cadfan:
 
 
                    975  Idwal
                              l
                  1014  Cynan          Bleddyn  1025
                              l                   l
                1041  Gruffudd         Maredudd  1065
                              l                   l               
                1080  Cadwaladr====Dyddgu  1095
                                         l
                           1115  Cadwgan        
                                         l                       
                           1150  Cadwaladr
                                         l                                            1165
                            1180  Cadfan====Lleuci 1195   Sandde Hardd
                                                 l                            l
                                  1210  Tangwystl=========Moreiddig  1195
               
 
         There is, however, pedigree evidence[18] for a Cadfan son of the Cadwaladr of c. 1108.  Likely born about 1135, the man in the following chart could not be a son of either Cadwaladr shown above:
 
            1108  Cadwaladr
                          l
           1135    Cadfan        Tudwal Gam* 1140     Rhiryd** 1120
                          l                l                             l
           1165   Thomas=====Ann  1175                Ithel  1155
                                  l                                     l
                     1195  Marged================Hywel  1185
 
          *ap Rhiwallon Fychan ap Rhiwallon ap Gwyryd ap Dyfnaint ap Meurig ap Iddon ap Iddig ap Llywarch ap Llofan ap Cilmin Droed Ddu ap Cadrod, the latter born c. 795 and a brother of Merfyn Frych; thus Cilmin was first-cousin of Rhodri Mawr
          **ap Cadwgan ap Rhiryd ap Bleddyn ap Cynfyn; Bleddyn was born c. 1025
 
         Having made these identifications of two men called Cadfan ap Cadwaladr, we now turn to the 1149 Brut entry which tells us "Cadwaladr ap Gruffudd built completely a castle at Llanrhystud; and he gave his portion of Ceredigion to Cadwgan, his son". The corresponding entry in the Annales Cambriae calls that son "Catwano" or Cadfan.  We feel certain the Cadwaladr in this entry was the younger brother of Owain Gwynedd since he had previously taken land in Ceredigion by force of arms. Although barely 14 years old in 1149, this Cadfan was likely a base son may have been confused by the Brut author with a fully-grown son of the earlier Cadwaladr named Cadwgan.  The error was corrected in the 1150 entry when Hywel ap Owain Gwynedd seized the lands and castle of "Cadfan ap Cadwaladr, his first cousin".
 
          A final citation bearing on this subject is the 1152 Brut entry "Owain Gwynedd deprived Cunedda ap Cadwallon, his nephew, his brother's son, of his eyes and testicles."  The same event is mentioned in ABT 4 as "Cunedda and Tangwystl were children of Cadwallon ap Gruffudd ap Cynan.  Owain ap Gruffudd caused to be blinded Cunedda, his nephew and son of his brother; that was the proverbial "Cunedda war of Is Conwy". 
 
          If Cunedda was actually a sister of Tangwystl, the chronology would require he be born c. 1110/1120 and could not have been the son of Owain Gwynedd's brother Cadwallon.  But if he were Owain's nephew, then it was a lad about 19 or 20 years old who suffered the mutilation. That seems inconsistent with his description as a man who fought the Gwynedd family for control of lands east of the River Conwy.  We suspect Cunedda was a younger brother of the Tangwystl who'd married Owain Gwynedd's brother Cadwaladr; that he was about 32/35 years old in 1152 when he contested Owain Gwynedd for control of the lands beyond the Conwy[19].  In that case, he was NOT Owain's nephew but his 3rd cousin:
 
                                   975  Idwal
                     _______________l________________
                     l                                                 l
          1005  Iago                                  1014  Cynan
                     l                                                 l
        1035  Cynan                                1041  Gruffudd
                     l                                                 l
       1070  Gruffudd                              1080  Cadwallon
              ____l__________                   _________l_______
              l                      l                  l                          l
1100 Owain G.   1103 Cadwaladr==Tangwystl 1115    1120 Cunedda
 
          One final observation which helps separate the children of the two men named Gruffudd ap Cynan: when we look at the marriages contracted by these men and their descendants, those who were descended from the Gruffudd of 1070 mostly took Gwynedd wives, while those we believe were descended from the 1041 Gruffudd mostly took Powys wives.  It is likely that the 4 sons we attribute to the earlier Gruffudd settled in Powys with Cadwgan ap Bleddyn and their uncle Maredudd ap Cynan[20].  The sons of the later Gruffudd (Owain Gwynedd, Cadwaladr and Cadwallon) had patrimonial interests in Gwynedd and no real ties to Powys. 
                                         
              
            

NOTES:
[1] See the paper "History of Gruffudd ap Cynan - A New Perspective" elsewhere on this site
[2] Gwenllian, born c. 1070, the wife of Cadwgan ap Bleddyn and Mali, also born c. 1070, the wife of Ieuaf ap Cadwgan ap Elystan Glodrydd.  Both those men were born c. 1055.
[3] ABT 5a
[4] ABT 11
[5] ABT 4
[6] ABT 10
[7] ABT 13
[8] ABT 12
[9] ABT 5b
[10] Peniarth Ms 128, 381a
[11] ABT 5b; HLG 5b
[12] Peniarth Ms 129, 51 & 54; Peniarth Ms 128, 177a & 590b
[13] ABT 3b
[14] ABT 3a
[15] ABT 3c
[16] ABT 3d
[17] Harleian Ms 1972, 80; Harleian Ms 1977, 57; Peniarth Ms 287, 133
[18] Peniarth Ms 128, 300a & 515a; and Harleian Ms 1977, 72v cite the marriage of Thomas ap Cadfan ap Cadwaladr to Ann ferch Tudwal Gam, while Peniarth Ms 128, 896b & 515a cite the marriage of Marged ferch Thomas ap Cadfan to Hywel ap Ithel ap Rhiryd
[19] We suggest the contested lands were those east of the Clwyd and north of the Dee which Powys claimed, and the "war" was not between factions of the Gwynedd ruling family, but between Gwynedd and Powys men
[20] See the paper "Who was Maredudd ap Cynan" elsewhere on this site where we identify Maredudd ap Cynan as a man born in Ireland, the younger brother of the earlier Gruffudd ap Cynan and who came to Meifod in Powys at age 14 to study as a cleric under Sulien the Wise.