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                                       SANDDE HARDD OF MORTYN
                                              By Darrell Wolcott
         In a seventeenth century family pedigree, we are told "Sandde Hardd was the eldest son of Caradog or Cadrod Hardd, lord of Tref Bodafon in Mon, by his second wife, Angharad, daughter of Gruffudd ap Carwed of Llwydiarth in Mon.  For his services in battle against the English, the Prince of Powys gave him the townships of Burton and Llai in the parish of Gresford."[1] Burton is the English name for Mortyn; these lands lie in the northwest of Maelor Cymraeg, a cantref of Powys Fadog later renamed Bromfield.  
         Clearly the drafter of this pedigree believed Caradog and Cadrod Hardd were alternate names for the same man.  The earliest extant manuscript which mentions either name[2] cites a Sandde ap Caradog Hardd ap Gwrydyr ap Maelog Dda but does not attach the nickname "Hardd" (handsome) to Sandde. The mother of this Sandde is cited as Angharad ferch Brochwel ap Moelyn, and Sandde is assigned brothers named Arthen and Iddon.  It was probably this lady whom the later pedigree assumed to be the first wife of its Caradog/Cadrod Hardd, but claims its Sandde Hardd was a son of a second wife. 
          When Lewys Dwnn collected family pedigrees in 1586-1613 for the College of Heralds, the confusion in the origins of this family can be seen in a citation which calls Cadrod Hardd the son of Gwrydr ap Maelog Dda and that he had sons Gwrydr, Ednyfed and Owain by a first wife who is not named, and sons Sandde Hardd, Iddon and Arthen by his second wife.  His second wife is identified as Angharad ferch Brochwel ap Moelwyn "and it is untrue that one was Griffri ap Carwed".[3] 
         If this citation had Caradog Hardd substituted for Cadrod Hardd, and the reference to the three sons by a first wife were removed, it would agree exactly with the Hen Lwythau Gwynedd manuscript we referenced in note 2.  The gratuitous comment added by Dwnn indicates that he was aware others were claiming the mother of Sandde Hardd was a different lady.[4]
         In his work on this early manuscript[5], the renowed Welsh genealogist, Peter Bartrum, suggests there was both a Caradog Hardd and a Cadrod Hardd who lived about 100 years apart and who both had a son named Sandde.  He accepts the portion of the manuscript which makes Caradog Hardd the son of Gwrydr ap Maelog Dda, and that he had a son named Sandde by Angharad ferch Brochwel ap Moelyn (whom he identifies as Bledrus y Moelyn..the bald..ap Aelan) but rejects the assignment of Arthen and Iddon as brothers of this Sandde.  Bartrum's conclusion is that Cadrod Hardd was probably the Cadrod ap Ieuaf ap Rhys ap Mor ap Dibyder ap Cillin ap Maelog Dda mentioned later in the same manuscript, and that Cadrod probably married a daughter of Gruffudd ap Carwed as his second wife who bore sons Sandde, Arthen and Iddon; and by a first unnamed wife, Cadrod has sons Gwrydr, Ednyfed and Owain.  He dates Sandde ap Caradog Hardd to c.1060 and Sandde ap Cadrod Hardd to c.1170  The result of our own work on this family does not differ in any important respect up to that point.  .
          It is Bartrum's view that only Sandde, son of Caradog Hardd, was called Hardd and that nickname should not be applied to Sandde ap Cadrod Hardd.  Although some exceptions are to be seen, the Dwnn pedigrees mostly follow that scheme.[6]  We would agree that only one of these men should be called Hardd; the one who owned the manor called Mortyn.[7]  The oldest of the manuscripts does not speak to that and we shall base our opinion on chronological grounds which appear to show all the pedigrees flawed in one respect or another.
          Our opening inquiry concerns when and how a man born in Anglesey acquired the lands in Maelor.  The only extant source which claims the land was a gift from the Prince of Powys is the pedigree written by Jacob Chaloner contained in a book of pedigrees now known as Harleian Ms 1972.  Primarily an heraldic painter, Chaloner also was an avid pedigree collector and lived from 1585 to 1631.  His claim has all the earmarks of a guess; by not naming the Prince of Powys, he doesn't limit himself to any particular date for the grant and since the land (at least when he wrote) was in Maelor, presumably only a Prince of Powys could have granted it.  The part about "services in battle against the English" is likewise little more than an assumption; isn't that what most royal grants to Welshmen were intended to reward?
        Careful analysis of the families which are said to descend from Sandde Hardd make it almost certain the acquisition came in the 12th century; thereafter marriages were contracted primarily with those families known to have been seated in Maelor. Only the marriages of Sandde and his son, Moriddig, were with ladies with Gwynedd roots.  Our analysis also dates the birth of Sandde Hardd to c. 1095; perhaps the reason why Sandde ap Caradog Hardd was not called "Hardd" in the earliest manuscript is that Sandde Hardd was his son...the nickname being added to distinguish one Sandde from the other. 
         A close look at the lands called Mortyn and Llei shows they lie north of the Alun River adjacent to townships called Trefalun and Gresford; those neighboring lands were also the subject of a grant "for services in battle" to a man called Eunydd.[8] Virtually all the land immediately south of that river was held by the family of Tudor Trevor.  We suspect the river was the northern border of Maelor when the 12th century dawned, with everything above the Alun (and east of Yr Hob) a part of the Lordship of Chester, that city itself a scant 11 miles up the Dee River.  If so, it may well have been the Earl of Chester who made the gift of land to Sandde Hardd and Eunydd...not a Prince of Powys.  Is there a likely scenerio where this may have occurred?  In fact there is. 
         In 1135, Stephen had been coronated King of England in spite of widespread knowledge that Henry I had promised the crown to his daughter Matilda. By 1141, Stephen had created many enemies among his barons.  During the Christmas season of that year, Ranulf the Earl of Chester and his half-brother William the Earl of Lincoln seized the royal castle at Lincoln.  Within days, Stephen arrived with an army and laid seige to the castle now held by men who had claimed to be his friends.  Ranulf slipped away after dark and went in search of assistance.  A number of the adherents of Matilda joined him as well as men whom Stephen had disinherited.  According to the account by William of Malmsbury, he also enlisted "a dreadful and unendurable mass of Welsh".  Only two Welshmen are identified by name, the brothers Maredudd and Cadwaladr...whose further identity is uncertain.  But when the messengers appeared in Gwynedd seeking volunteers for Earl Ranulf's army, perhaps a forty-ish Sandde Hardd and his teenage son signed on.  He may have even agreed to recruit many of his acquaintences, young men seeking adventure and the spoils of war.  We think Eunydd ap Heilyn of the lower Clwyd valley also recruited his friends to join the Earl. 
          In any event, the Earl of Chester and his army of Welsh mercenaries and disinherited Englishmen returned to Lincoln and attacked Stephen's army as it continued to lay seige to the castle.  A number of Stephen's barons fled the field as the battle was joined and soon Stephen himself was captured.  We can't know if Sandde Hardd or Eunydd were present nor what role they may have played, but this could explain when and why both men received the lands on the north bank of the Alun River.  Indeed, those lands may have remained a part of England until some later time when it was brought under the lordship of Maelor. 
         A major problem with positing Sandde Hardd and his son, Moriddig, as being of fighting age in 1141 are the medieval pedigrees which name their wives.  Several sources cite the wife of Sandde as Hunydd (or Angharad) ferch Gruffudd ap Cadwgan of Nannau [9].   When we chart that marriage, it points to a Sandde Hardd born c. 1165:
                         1110  Cadwgan of Nannau*   
                                1155 Gruffudd  
                                1180 Hunydd======Sandde Hardd 1165  
       *While there were several men named Cadwgan in this family, we believe the one born c. 1110 was the first to be called "of Nannau" and was the son of Bleddyn ap Madog ap Cadwgan.  His son Madog inherited Nannau and Gruffudd may have been a younger brother of that Madog.
          Those sources which name the wife of Moriddig ap Sandde call her Tangwystl ferch Cadfan ap Cadwaladr[10].  The well-known man of that name was a grandson of King Gruffudd ap Cynan and who occurs in the Brut in 1149 and 1151, probably born c. 1128/1130.  A daughter of his would date from c. 1160 and could not have married the son of either a c. 1065 or c. 1165 Sandde.  However, we think the reason why Cadfan was called "Cadwgan" in the 1149 Brut entry (although cited correctly as Cadfan in 1151) is that there was, in fact, a contemporary Cadwgan ap Cadwaladr in the same expanded family.  When we also notice that the wife named for Cadfan ap Cadwaladr was a lady born near 1200, we should realize that a later man of that name is meant.  All these dates flow naturally once we identify the man at the top as Gruffudd ap Cynan nephew of Iago, not Gruffudd ap Cynan ap Iago[11]:
        975  Idwal ap Elisedd           
              l                     l
  1005  Iago             Cynan  1014     
              l                     l
  1035  Cynan          Gruffudd  1041     
              l                     l                   
 1070 Gruffudd       Cadwaladr  1080
              l                     l
1105  Cadwaladr     Cadwgan(b)  1115      Rhys  1140
              l                     l                           l
 1128  Cadfan(a)     Cadwaladr  1150        Ithel  1170
                                  l                            l
                      1180 Cadfan(c)======Lleuci(d) 1195     Sandde  1165
                                                l                                     l
                              1210  Tangwystl(e)==========Moriddig 1195
 (a) ABT 3a cites this pedigree while the Brut y Tywysogyon says Cadwaladr gave this son his lands in Ceredigion in 1149, probably because he was a base son and he intended to leave his Gwynedd lands to his legitimate sons.
 (b) The actual 1149 Brut entry calls Cadwaladr's son Cadwgan.  The same event recorded in Annales Cambriae says the son was "Catwan" = Cadfan.  We suggest there actually was a contemporary Cadwgan ap Cadwaladr, but who had nothing to do with Ceredigion, and this fact was the source of the Brut error
 (c) Peniarth Ms 128 cites the marriage of "Cadfan ap Cadwaladr" to this lady
 (d) Lleuci was a sister of Rhiwallon Lloyd ap Ithel who was born c. 1205; the Cadfan ap Cadwaladr she married could not be the same man in note (a) above
 (e) Contrary to those pedigrees who call the lady "ferch Cadfan ap Cadwaladr ap Gruffudd ap Cynan", we supply the probable generations omitted in those citations and date Tangwystl contemporary with a son of the c. 1160 Sandde
          Although these citations indicate a man called Moriddig ap Sandde was born near 1195, the large number of extant pedigrees of the family at Mortyn and Llei argue for an ancestor of that name born near 1125.  Both Ynyr ap Hywel ap Moriddig and his brother Iorwerth occur c. 1185/1190 as we shall show presently.  We suggest the following chart as the actual early family:
                                 1025  Caradog Hardd
                                     1060  Sandde
                                         Sandde Hardd  1095
                                            Moriddig  1125
                          _____________ l______
                          l                                  l
              1165  Sandde*                    Hywel  1155
                          l                                  l                             
            1195  Moriddig*       sons Ynyr and Iorwerth  1185/1190
     *The cited marriages are for these two men, not the earlier same-named men.  Although this Sandde could chronologically be the son of Cadrod, he may also have been the youngest son of Moriddig who inherited his father's manor in Gwyneded while his brother remained in Maelor.  This could explain the marriages with ladies of Gwynedd.  We would attach this Sandde to the descendants of Caradog Hardd for that reason as well as for the recurring naming pattern.
          The marriage cited for Hywel ap Moriddig points to a birthdate for him near 1155, as does the marriage cited for his daughter:
        1025 Rhys Sais I    
      1060  Elidyr                                                 Rhiwallon  1030 
                   l                                                           l
     1090  Meilyr               Sandde Hardd 1095      Cynwrig  1065      
                  l                              l                             l
    1125  Gruffudd                 Moriddig  1125        Hoedliw  1105
                  l                              l                             l        
     1160 Gwladys========Hywel 1155            Cynwrig  1140
                                   l                                          l
                     1185  Marged==============Cynwrig
                                                                          Fychan  1175
               Thus, while we have no cited marriages for the men at the top of the family, those claimed for Hywel and later decendants fit our timeline.  Iorwerth ap Hywel ap Moriddig was born c. 1185. He was the ancestor of those families seated at Mortyn and Llai in the 14th century, and can be dated by both his marriage and that of his son Gronwy:   
                                      1025  Bleddyn ap Cynfyn
                                          1065  Mareddud
                                      l                                    l
                      1095  Gruffudd                           Hywel  1101
                                     l                                     l
                        1127  Meurig                      Maredudd Hen 1128
                                     l                                     l
                     1160  Rhiryd Foel                       Dafydd  1165
                                     l                                     l
 1185  IORWERTH===Sian(a) 1200                  Rhys  1200
                             l                                             l
               1215  GRONWY=============Gwenllian(b) 1230
            (a) See Harleian Ms 1977 for this marriage
       (b)  This marriage is cited in Peniarth Ms 287
          Perhaps the best known of the men cited as "ap Hywel ap Moriddig ap Sandde Hardd" was Llewelyn ap Ynyr.  Although our charts of those families connected by marriage point to a birthdate for Llewelyn near 1225 and Ynyr to c.1190, perhaps the best way to validate those dates comes from other sources.  The family histories[14] recite the following story:
          Llewelyn greatly distinguished himself in battle, and his valor was rewarded by his prince Gruffudd Maelor with the Lordship of Gelligynan in Ial, together with a new coat of arms.  It is said that while Llewelyn was conversing with the prince after the fight, he accidently drew a hand smeared with blood across his sword, leaving four bloodstains on it.  Observing it, the prince conferred upon him new arms being "paly of eight, argent and gules".  This story of the arms should be taken as little more than fable when you consider the resemblance to Gruffudd Maelor's own arms: "paly of eight argent and gules, a lion rampant sable".  Early genealogists dated this battle to 1165 under Gruffudd Maelor ap Madog ap Maredudd, but the grant of land is dated in the year 1256 during the rule of Gruffudd Maelor II.  Some historians, apparently doubtful that Llewelyn could have been born as early as 1165, wrote that it was Ynyr who was the recipient of the honors and not his son[15].  But when we coordinate the event with the date of the grant, the 1165 date becomes immaterial; a battle fought in 1256[16] could easily have involved a Llewelyn ap Ynyr born c.1225, our estimate for him. 
           Further evidence of the actual floruit of Ynyr and his son can be deduced from the following:
                              l                                     l
                       Gruffudd                         Mareddud
                                                 l                                 l
                                     Gruffudd Lloyd            Llewelyn Fychan
           In the year 1315[17], we find the holders of the ville of Gelligynan in Ial were the brothers Gruffudd and Mareddud ap Llewelyn; Gruffudd Lloyd; and Llewelyn Fychan ap Maredudd ap Llewelyn.  The two latter men were young adults at the time, and their father and uncle were still living.  (Gruffudd ap Llewelyn also had a son, Maredudd of Yr Hob, who may have been yet a child in 1315).  Should we assign a birthdate near 1285/90 for Gruffudd Lloyd and Llewelyn Fychan and about 1255/1260 for the sons of Llewelyn ap Ynyr, those elders would have been about 55/60 years old in 1315.  To move these estimates a generation either forward or back would take us to dates at which it would be very unlikely that both father and son were alive in 1315.  In the present chart, Ynyr would occur c. 1190 and fit chronologically as a brother of Iorwerth ap Hywel ap Moriddig.  (Appendix A shows the pedigree of the family seated in Bodidris in Ial, whose heiress married a descendant of Llewelyn ap Ynyr and brought that township to the latter family)
           A daughter, Marged, is also cited as "ferch Hywel ap Moriddig ap Sandde Hardd". She married Cynwrig Fychan ap Cynwrig ap Hoedliw[18], which Hoedliw was a brother of Ninniaw ap Cynwrig ap Rhiwallon.  Also a prominent Maelor family, we place the birth of Hoedliw near 1115 and Cynwrig Fychan c. 1180.  We should expect his wife to date from 1190/1195 and believe that is where Marged should be dated.

          An anomaly in the early family concerns a man identified as Ithel ap Hywel ap Moriddig, and who is cited in a single manuscript[19].  The marriage cited for Ithel, and that claimed for his daughter Dyddgu, date him to c. 1230.  If his father's name was Moriddig, it would be one born c. 1165 and could be neither the Moreiddig of c. 1125 nor the Moriddig of c. 1195 previously discussed.  A chart of this citation appears as:
    1065  Ithel Felyn
      1095  Hwfa             Rhys Sais II  1124
                  l                        l
    1125  Y Gwion               Elidyr  1152
                  l                        l
  1160  Cadwgan Goch*      Meilyr  1180          MORIDDIG  1165
                  l                        l                                l
       1190  Hwfa              Cadwgan  1210           HYWEL  1200
                  l                        l                                l
    1220  Y Gwion     1245 Clementia========ITHEL  1230
                  l                                          l
 1250  Cadwgan Goch==========Dyddgu  1265
       *Most authorities claim a single "Cadwgan Goch ap Y Gwion ap Hwfa" and assign him two wives; Dyddgu ferch Ithel of c. 1265 and Nest ferch Hywel ap Ithel ap Madog ap Rhiryd ap Bleddyn ap Cynfyn.  That Nest would date from c. 1175 and married this earlier Cadwgan, the great-grandfather of the later Cadwgan Goch who married Dyddgu.
          A second anomaly is seen in the ancestry cited for Ednyfed ap Hywel ap Llewelyn ap Moriddig, who also would appear to require a Moriddig born c. 1165:
                                                                   Moriddig  1125
                                  Dolffyn  1155                Hywel  1155
                                       l                                 l
      1165  Moriddig      Llewelyn  1185           Iorwerth  1185  
                   l                   l                                 l
    1200  Llewelyn====Sissely(a)  1215         Gronwy(b)  1215
                            l                                            l
                1230  Hywel                                  Dafydd  1250
                            l                                            l                
              1265  Ednyfed==============Gwenllian(c)  1280
      (a) Harleian Mss 1972 & 1977 and Peniarth Ms 287 cite this marriage; the lady was sister to Efa who married Eunydd ap Gwrgeneu, for which see "Eunydd Son of Gwenllian" at the link below:
       (b)  Gronwy and his ancestors have been discussed and dated earlier in this paper.
       (c)  This marriage is cited in Peniarth Mss 128 & 134
         The Llewelyn ap Moriddig in the above chart is not the man of that name who had a daughter, Sybil, that married Llewelyn ap Ithel ap Heilyn[20].  Sybil's father was born c. 1160 and was a brother of Hywel ap Moriddig of c. 1155.  Llewelyn ap Ithel ap Heilyn occurs c. 1195 as the grandson of Heilyn ap Eunydd ap Heilyn ap Eunydd ap Morien.
         When we chart the early family to include a third Moriddig, the timeline appears thus:
                               1060   Sandde
                             1095  Sandde Hardd
                              1125  Moriddig
                 ________________l_________                     ?
                 l                    l                        l                     l
    1165 Sandde  1155  Hywel     1160  Llewelyn        Moriddig  1165
                l                    l                         l                     l
 1195 Moriddig  1185 Iorwerth      1195  Sybil  sons Hywel & Llewelyn
 (Gwynedd line)   (Mortyn line)                        (also of Mortyn)
         The family on the far right we have called an anomaly since it chronologically does not fit with either Moriddig ap Sandde in the main chart.  Two possibilies might be offered:  the c. 1165 Moriddig was a same-named son of the Moriddig of c. 1125 and the citations (which say Moriddig ap Sandde) have omitted one of the two men; or there was another Sandde born c. 1130 who was brother to the first Moriddig.  The first suggestion seems to have more merit since the other would posit three consecutive generations of men called Sandde.

         Those writers, including Peter Bartrum, who identify Mortyn with the c. 1060 Sandde ap Caradog Hardd also suggest it was a battle in east Denbighshire around 1094 in which he earned this grant.  Although a record exists in the Brut of war between the Prince of Powys, Cadwgan ap Bleddyn, and "the French" in 1094, that battle occurred in Gwynedd and not Denbighshire.  We suspect those writers were simply searching for a likely engagement that occurred when their Sandde was of prime fighting age.  There is, however, evidence that Caradog Hardd was an ally of Bleddyn ap Cynfyn when the latter ruled Gwynedd from 1063 to 1069.  The following chart shows that relationship: 
                                            980  Bledrus y Moelyn
                                              1010  Brochwel
                                        l                                      l             1025
1030  Caradog Hardd==Angharad 1040       1040  daughter==Bleddyn
                                l                                                       l
                 1060  Sandde*                                  1060  Iorwerth*
          *Actual birthdates are not recorded, but our estimates only indicate the two sons were likely born within 5 years of 1060 and not necessarily both in the same year
         While the early pedigrees[21] attest that both Caradog Hardd and Bleddyn ap Cynfyn had sons by a daughter of Brochwel, it is not known if the ladies were sisters or if it were a single lady.  Sandde and Iorwerth were at least maternal first-cousins and might have been half-brothers.  It was not uncommon in that society for an unmarried daughter of a prominent nobleman to bear the children of other nobles without marrying them.[22]  The pedigrees merely identify the mother and father; the assumption those parents were married is mere speculation.  Although interesting, this connection between the two families does not associate Sandde ap Caradog Hardd with Powys or Mortyn; all those shown in the chart resided in Anglesey at the time.
[1] Pedigree of Plas yn Horslli from Archaeologia Cambrensis, 1876, pp 20
[2] Hen Lwythau Gwynedd a'r Mars, 1c and 1d from Peter Bartrum's "Early Welsh Genealogical Tracts", Cardiff, 1966
[3] Dwnn ii, 264 
[4] The comment reads "Ail wraig Cadrod oedd Angh'd v Brochwel ab Moelwyn yr hwn a elwyd Grifri ab Carwed"  Certainly "ail wraig" was intended to mean "second wife" but Bartrum's analysis (which contains no translation of the Welsh phrase which follows the word "Moelwyn") took it to be incorrectly saying that Brochwel ab Moelwyn was also called Grifri ab Carwed.  Our translation yields a much different statement.
[5] National Library of Wales Journal, vol xii, pp 201-235
[6] ibid Note 5 pp 224 lists several instances; only Dwnn ii, 76 and 264 add Hardd to Sandde ap Cadrod Hardd. But others of those Dwnn citations contain obvious omissions and cannot be considered of sufficient weight to settle the matter. The older manuscript, HLG 1, does not mention a Sandde ap Cadrod; it does mention Caradog Hardd, Sandee his son, and a later Cadrod but neither of the latter men are called "Hardd".
[7] Dwnn i, 325 and Dwnn ii, 318 include the connection to Mortyn, while several other citations call Moriddig a son of Sandde Hardd without naming his lands
[8] Refer to the paper "Eunydd Son of Gwenllian" at the link below:
[9] These include Harleian Ms 1977 and Peniarth Ms 287
[10] Harleian Mss 1972 and 1977; Peniarth Ms 287
[11] See the paper "Gruffudd ap Cynan - A New Perspective" at the link below:
[12] Peniarth Ms 287, 95 and Harleian Ms 1977, 57 cite the marriage of Hywel,  while Pen. 128, 148a cites the marriage of Marged 
[13] The pedigree was partially reproduced in Archaeologia Cambrensis, 1932, pp 242
[14] Condensed from the accounts in Sir Bernard Burke's "General Armory", 1989 edition, pp 613 and Archaeologia Cambrensis, 1859, pp 202/203
[15] J.Y.W. Lloyd's "History of Powys Fadog", 1885, vol v, pp 130
[16] Brut y Tywysogyon records an action where Llewelyn the Last clashed in the Perfeddwlad with the retainers of young Edward I and drove them out
[17] T.P. Ellis' "The First Extent of Bromfield and Yale AD 1315", 1924, London, pp 81
[18] Peniarth Ms 128
[19] Peniarth Ms 128
[20] Harleian Ms 1972
[21] HLG 1d and ABT 8c
[22] Many instances in early tax rolls can be seen of a render due from a man "whenever their daughters are married or led astray by different men"; see the source in note 17

APPENDIX A - Bodidris family in Ial
                             1050  Ednowain Bendew
                                 1080  Madog
                                1110  Iorwerth
                                 1140  Rhiryd
                                 1175  Einion
1195    Ynyr               1205  Madog
              l                               l
1225  Llewelyn            1235 Maredudd
              l                  _______l_________
              l                  l                            l
1255  Maredudd       Ieuaf  1270          Llewelyn 1265
              l                  l                            l
1285 Gruffudd===Tangwystl 1300       Llewelyn  1295
         Lloyd        l                                      l
           1315 Llewelyn============Lleuci  1325 
       The Ednowain Bendew at the top of the family seated in Bodidris in 1315 is NOT the man of that name who was a son of Neiniad ap Gwaethfoed born c. 1020.  In fact, we suspect the ancestor of this family was deliberately mis-identified and was actually the son-in-law of that Ednowain: Owain ap Edwin. To explore this family in depth, see the two papers linked below:
       The pedigree of Tangwystl ferch Ieuaf is found in Arch. Cam. 1875, pp 41 but omits Einion ap Rhiryd. (It should be noted that most of the medieval pedigrees incorrectly assign her marriage to Gruffudd Lloyd ap Llewelyn ap Ynyr; we think only the son of Maredudd ap Llewelyn was called Gruffudd Lloyd...Gruffudd ap Llewelyn is named in the 1315 Extent of Yale and Bromfield without the "Lloyd" nickname attached.) The pedigree of Lleuci ferch Llewelyn is from Arch. Cam. 1889, pp 247/248 which stops with Maredudd ap Madog.  The dates assigned are consistent with marriages cited by various sources for men later than Madog ap Rhiryd.
       Gruffudd Lloyd and his father, Maredudd, are named among the holders of Gelligynan in Ial in 1315.  In that same year, Gruffudd Lloyd and Llewelyn ap Llewelyn ap Maredudd held Bodidris in Ial; presumably the former obtained his share from his wife.  According to the pedigrees cited above, a marriage between the children of those two men brought the whole of Bodidris to the family descended from Llewelyn ap Ynyr and thus from Sandde Hardd.
       Since the first 5 generations of the 1315 Bodidris family are known to have been seated in Tegeingl and not Ial, one might conjecture that Maredudd ap Madog of that line obtained Bodidris at the same time and in the same manner in which Llewelyn ap Ynyr obtained Gelligynan: through military service for Gruffudd Maelor II, Prince of Powys.