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Beli Mawr and Llyr Llediath in Welsh Pedigrees
The Bartrum "Welsh Genealogies"
Bartrum's "Pedigrees of the Welsh Tribal Patriarchs"
A study in charting medieval citations
The Evolution of the "Padriarc Brenin" Pedigree
Generational Gaps and the Welsh Laws
Minimum Age for Welsh Kingship in the Eleventh Century
The Lands of the Silures
Catel Durnluc aka Cadell Ddyrnllwg
Ancient Powys
The Royal Family of Powys
The Royal Family of Gwynedd
The 5 Plebian Tribes of Wales
Maxen Wledig of Welsh Legend
Maxen Wledig and the Welsh Genealogies
Anwn Dynod ap Maxen Wledig
Constans I and his 343 Visit to Britain
Glast and the Glastening
Composite Lives of St Beuno
Rethinking the Gwent Pedigrees
The Father of Tewdrig of Gwent
Another Look at Teithfallt of Gwent
Ynyr Gwent and Caradog Freich Fras
Llowarch ap Bran, Lord of Menai
Rulers of Brycheiniog - The Unanswered Questions
Lluan ferch Brychan
The Herbert Family Pedigree
Edwin of Tegeingl and his Family
Angharad, Heiress of Mostyn
Ithel of Bryn in Powys
Idnerth Benfras of Maesbrook
Henry, the Forgotten Son of Cadwgan ap Bleddyn
The Muddled Pedigree of Sir John Wynn of Gwydir
The Mysterious Peverel Family
The Clan of Tudor Trevor
The Other "Sir Roger of Powys"
Ancestry of Ieuaf ap Adda ap Awr of Trevor
The Retaking of Northeast Wales
Hedd Molwynog or Hedd ap Alunog of Llanfair Talhearn
"Meuter Fawr" son of Hedd ap Alunog
The Medieval "redating" of Braint Hir
Aaron Paen ap Y Paen Hen
Welsh Claims to Ceri after 1179
The Battle of Mynydd Carn
Trahaearn ap Caradog of Arwystli
Cadafael Ynfyd of Cydewain
Maredudd ap Robert, Lord of Cedewain
Cadwgan of Nannau
Maredudd ap Owain, King of Deheubarth
What Really Happened in Deheubarth in 1022?
Two Families headed by a Rhydderch ap Iestyn
The Era of Llewelyn ap Seisyll
Cynfyn ap Gwerystan, the Interim King
The Consorts and Children of Gruffudd ap Llewelyn
The 1039 Battle at Rhyd y Groes
The First Wife of Bleddyn ap Cynfyn
Hywel ap Gronwy of Deheubarth
The Brief Life of Gruffudd ap Maredudd
The Other Gwenwynwyn
Eunydd son of Gwenllian
Sandde Hardd of Mortyn
The Floruit of Einion ap Seisyllt
The Enigmatic Elystan Glodrydd
Cowryd ap Cadfan of Dyffryn Clwyd
Owain ap Cadwgan and Nest ferch Rhys - An Historic Fiction?
The "sons" of Owain ap Cadwgan ap Bleddyn
The Betrayal by Meirion Goch Revisited
Gwyn Ddistain, seneschal for Llewelyn Fawr
The Men of Lleyn - How They Got There
Trahaearn Goch of Lleyn
Einion vs Iestyn ap Gwrgan - The Conquest of Glamorgan
Dafydd Goch ap Dafydd - His Real Ancestry
Thomas ap Rhodri - Father of Owain "Lawgoch"
The "Malpas" Family in Cheshire
Einion ap Celynin of Llwydiarth
Marchweithian, Lord of Is Aled, Rhufoniog
Osbwrn Wyddel of Cors Gedol
Bradwen of Llys Bradwen in Meirionydd
Ednowain ap Bradwen
Sorting out the Gwaithfoeds
Three Men called Iorwerth Goch "ap Maredudd"
The Caradog of Gwynedd With 3 Fathers
Who Was Sir Robert Pounderling?
Eidio Wyllt - What Was His Birthname?
The Legendary Kingdom of Seisyllwg
The Royal Family of Ceredigion
Llewelyn ap Hoedliw, Lord of Is Cerdin
The Ancestry of Owain Glyndwr
Welsh Ancestry of the Tudor Dynasty
Gruffudd ap Rhys, the Homeless Prince
The Children of Lord Rhys
Maredudd Gethin ap Lord Rhys
The 'Next Heir' of Morgan of Caerleon
Pedigree of the ancient Lords of Ial
The Shropshire Walcot Family
Pedigree of "Ednowain Bendew II"
Pedigree of Cynddelw Gam
                         PEDIGREE OF THE ANCIENT LORDS OF IAL
                                      By Darrell Wolcott
 
          The earliest man known to have held the Lordship of Ial was Llewelyn Aurdorchog, born c. 1005.  The commote of Ial is believed to have been a part of the personal holdings of the first Powys dynasty which dates at least from the 4th century Cadell Ddyrnwllg.  Some think Ial was granted to Elgudy and his son, Cynddelw Gam, in the early 10th century when lands east of the Clwyd river and north of the Alun were retaken from Danish squatters.[1]  We suspect, however, it was only Ystrad Alun that comprised that grant, Ial being retained by the Powys royal family until the mid-11th century when King Gruffudd ap Llewelyn gave it to his penteulu Llewelyn Aurdorchog.
 
         The pedigree of Llewelyn Aurdorchog is without chronological problems until it reaches the 6th century.  His ancestor Llywarch Hen was born c. 520 to Elidyr Lydanwyn ap Meirchion Gul ap Gwrwst Ledlum ap Ceneu ap Coel Hen.[2]  He was a first-cousin of Urien of Rheged ap Cynfarch Oer ap Meirchion Gul and both resided in the far north of Britain before the Saxons took their lands.  Tradition claims he was called Llywarch Hen because he lived over 100 years, finally dying about 634.  At least 25 and up to 32 children are credited to him, only two of which generated known families.  Dwc ap Llywarch Hen, born c. 560, was the direct male ancestor of Merfyn Frych who took Gwynedd from the family of Cunedda in the early 9th century.[3]  But the man called Sandde ap Llywarch Hen, the ancestor of Llewelyn Aurdorchog, dates from a generation later.
 
         We strongly doubt any men of this era, when most were dead by age 65, lived over 100 years.  It is much more likely this Llywarch was called Hen to distinguish him from a son also named Llywarch, and that it was this son who died c. 634.  Our chart would look like this:
 
                                   345  Coel Hen (the old)
                                              l
                                   380  Ceneu
                                              l
                           415  Gwrwst Ledlum (mostly bare)
                                              l
                                 450  Meirchion Gul (lean)
                                              l
                             485  Elidyr Lydanwyn  (broad and fair)
                                              l
                                 520  Llywarch Hen
                      _______________l_____________
                      l                                             l
          555  Llywarch (ob. c 634)              560  Dwc
                      l
           585  Sandde                      (to Merfyn Frych of c. 790)
 
             Most of the earliest manuscripts call this Sandde "Bryd Angel" or "with the mind of an angel".  But certainly he was not the same man whom Welsh tradition says was a knight of Arthur's court who escaped unharmed at the Battle of Camlann where everyone thought he was an angel because he was so beautiful.  If that Sandde were not merely mythical, he would have been nearly 100 years older than Sandde ap Llywarch.  We suspect the medieval genealogists appended the nickname to the c. 585 Sandde without checking the chronology.
 
           The majority of the early manuscripts continue with a Mechydd ap Sandde[4] whom we would date c. 620; at the same time, we would revise the traditional obit of Llywarch to about that same date.  Men of that era did not normally bear children while their father was still alive.  The next genealogical link is given as Madog Madogiawn, but there is no Welsh word or placename to account for such a nickname.  Either one link is missing in the subsequent family, or this link has been corrupted from something like "Madog ap Madog Gwyn".  When placed in the pedigree, the list of generations becomes chronologically possible[5]:
 
                               585  Sandde
                                         l
                              620  Mechydd
                                         l
                           650  Madog Gwyn (or Madogion)
                                         l
                              685  Madog
                                         l
                            715  Dwyfnerth
                                         l
                              750  Tegog
                                         l
                            785  Dwywg Lythyr  (with the letter)
                                         l
                            815  Gwrysnadd
                                         l
                               845  Elgudy
                                         l
                          880  Cynddelw Gam (the squinter)
                                         l
                              915  Cynwrig
                                         l
                             945  Gweirydd
                                         l
                                975  Coel
                                         l
                  1005  Llewelyn Aurdorchog, Lord of Ial and Ystrad Alun
 
         The eldest son of Llewelyn Aurdorchog, Llewelyn Fychan, became the 2nd Lord of Ial around 1065 and he was followed by his eldest son, Ithel Felyn.  Hwfa, son of Ithel Felyn was born c. 1095 and held the Lordship of Ial until the mid-12th century and was followed by his son, Ithel "y wyrion" usually called "Gwion" in pedigrees.  It isn't clear exactly when the Lordship was taken from this family by the descendants of Bleddyn ap Cynfyn, but king of northern Powys, Madog ap Gruffudd Maelor I, seems to have done so before his death in 1236. Sometime after the Norman conquest in 1282, the Lordships of Ial and Maelor were combined and called "Yale and Bromfield".   
 
         

NOTES:
[1] See the paper "The Retaking of Northeast Wales" elsewhere on this site
[2] The pedigree of Coel Hen extending back to Beli Mawr of c. 130 BC is cited in Harleian Ms 3859, 10; Vita Beatissimi Cadoci, #46; Historia Gruffudd vab Cynan; Jesus College Ms 20, 5;  and ABT 1c
[3] The pedigree of Merfyn Frych extending back to Dwc ap Llywarch Hen is cited in ABT 1e; Jesus College Ms 20, 17; and Historia Gruffudd vab Cynan
[4] ABT 6i where 5 of the 6 known versions of this manuscript include Mechydd ap Sandde, the other omitting him
[5] The unemended version of this pedigree is found in HLG 5.  Among it's omissions are both the father and grandfather of Llewelyn Aurdorchog.  The form "Llewelyn Aurdorchog ap Coel ap Gweirydd" is cited in several Peniarth manuscripts, the oldest being Pen. 131, 286 from the late 15th century